Megan Nivens: Hey guys, we are so excited number one to be doing SheBoss. It’s been a minute since we’ve had a SheBoss, we’ve been a little bit busy with some projects going on. But I don’t think there’s any better way to kick it off than to do so with you, Shannon. So cheers to you.
Shannon Fisher Yeah. Happy Friday. Yeah,
Megan Nivens: We are so excited that Shannon Fisher, one of the CO owners of Lemon and Lavender and downtown Madison is going to be speaking with us today. And you can see behind me, but the most beautiful retail shop sits in downtown Madison. And we walked in this morning. And not only the ambiance of the environment, but the smell like I want to camp out here and just hang out like it’s still it’s like when you walk into the Westin Hotel, and it has that like, you know what I’m saying? It just has that very peaceful, very peaceful smell. So thank you so much for letting us spend some time with you today lately
Shannon Fisher: Thank you I really do appreciate it.
Megan Nivens: So Shannon and I have been, we’ve chatted a couple of times over the course of the last few months and have seen her and her business thrive. You recently won an award with the Madison Chamber of Commerce for I mean, so we’ll talk about that a little bit. But man, lemon and Lavender has just exploded. So we’re gonna give you guys an up close and personal tour, which I’m really excited about. But let’s start with you and start with a little bit about your background. And just tell us about your background how you came to be. And we’ll sort of go from there. Yeah.
Shannon Fisher: So my background is easy peasy, right? You graduate high school and go off to college. So I have a BSBA in accounting. And then I have a Master’s, my MBA. But I have worked in corporate and small business as the accountant and always the sole accountants and just doing all of the things very data oriented. And just I love numbers. I love all of that information. I tell everyone here that I just kind of run the back office and that that’s where I like to be. I’m an introvert by nature. And so people really not my thing, not that I don’t love people, but I prefer to be in my own environment. Yeah. So yeah, so I’ve done accounting for over 20 years, probably Wow. And then this little idea came about I do have a business partner very handy. You’ve met her? Yeah, he’s great. Yeah. And so then we decided that we would launch into LL and what this town needed was what ll provide? Yeah. So we’re here now doing this, I’ve retired from my day job, which was a huge eight gap in order to do that.
Megan Nivens: So you and you guys started lemon and lavender. And how long ago, we started lemon lavender
Shannon Fisher: In 2021. So COVID was still active at that point to start a business let’s get on with them to our idea.
Megan Nivens: Tell you what, that you guys have done. So well. Yeah. So telling. So I think
Shannon Fisher: The key is really to have that business model down. Yeah. And not maneuvering away from it. Yeah. And so we were extremely intentional on how we were going to be a business and what that looked like and all the steps to it. And it was hard at first like we are offended when we were still having the six foot rule. You know where you had to stay six feet away. And you had to wear
Megan Nivens: I feel like that was so it was right. It was like a loop. Stay out of my loop. Yes.
Shannon Fisher: So it made shopping in our 225 square foot store. Very difficult. Yeah. But it worked. And people were very receptive to the idea and what we do.
Megan Nivens: So this is a this is a very interesting concept that I think not a lot of people are familiar with. So it’s a real Fillory. And one of only two refineries in the state of Alabama, the only one in North Alabama, so come down, and check it out. But tell us a little bit about that. Because I think there’s there’s probably, I think that there may be some skepticism around it. Maybe the not really confusion around it really what what’s the what’s the sowhat behind it? What’s the benefit behind it? Obviously much more eco friendly for the environment. But talk a little bit about the why you guys decided to start the Riflery what someone can expect from engaging with the rear Fillory and how that can kind of maybe impact their personal well,
Shannon Fisher: health and wellness. Yeah, so refill Reese are not new. They are new to our area, the South, I think historically kind of everything trickles down slower than it’s going to hit the northwest and northeast and things of that nature. So a refill hurry in general is not a new concept for businesses. Basically, it is a pay by ounce situation. And so you can come in with your own containers. We always have free containers. We actually partner with Phoenix glass recycling their local Yep, they give us free glass. And so we put free glass out for customers.
Megan Nivens: And Phoenix is oh, is it a local glass recycling? Yeah,
Shannon Fisher: Annie and I are a local glass recycling company. And so they actually came into the store and said we want to partner with you. Why and so we started talking about what that look like. And so you can buy containers. You can get free containers, you can bring your own. I laugh and tell customers I’m like I don’t care if you bring in plastic. The point is not to go out and buy new plastic right. That’s where we’re at. Yeah, don’t want to have more plastic hitting the landfill. And so you can come in the store, we have cleaning and bath products, and you fill up the containers, and then we weigh them, and you pay by ounce. And so you’re getting usually a better price, and you’re definitely getting a better product, all of our products are clean, we have vetted our suppliers to the nth degree, to make sure that what we are bringing in is going to be beneficial, not just for you, but also for the environment. Some of the skeptics have argued about the plastic containers that we do have on the reef Fillory and they aren’t there. However, our suppliers utilize a closed loop system. So when we get done, we can send them back the container and they thoroughly sanitize it and incorporated back into their manufacturing process. Gotcha. And so we’re keeping it in their system, the other ones we can actually recycle in our home recycling. And so if we have one that doesn’t qualify for a closed loop, Randy and I wash it out and take it home and put it in a recycle bin at home.
Megan Nivens: I love that. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So what’s what’s fascinating, I didn’t realize this before coming in is that not only do you use source different items, but you also make items here we do in a store, too. I didn’t, I didn’t realize that I took all of it. Okay.
Shannon Fisher: Yeah. So brandy, one of her passions is manufacturing. And so she came to me, gosh, a year and a half ago, and was like, I really want to manufacture stuff. And I was like, I really need you to research the level three and make sure that we are fun,
Megan Nivens: are we gonna get a deal? And that’s, that’s great. Oh, look at an orange.
Shannon Fisher: So we spent a lot of time researching just what we needed to do on our end. And then we start or she did, she started manufacturing, and trying out the products. And you know, a lot of trial and error go a long way to effects and things. But yeah, we started with just bath salts. That was our very first product she made. And then we just expanded on top of that. And now we do laundry detergent, dry shampoo, linen spray, a wool dryer balls spray, we kept our bath salts. People love those today. But yeah, it’s been fun. And we try to incorporate a new product at least once a year. It takes a while. Yeah, obviously, one kind of come to fruition and make sure that you’ve got all the legal requirements. Yeah. Go on.
Megan Nivens: I’m curious about the the process that you that goes into something like that, you know, I mean, there’s assumptions to be made about testing and scents and all that kind of stuff. But how do you how do you come up with a new bath salt? How do you come up with a new product? Like what does that process usually look like? Do you have?
Shannon Fisher: Do you have a good focus group here that you kind of lean on? Or does this your girlfriend’s that like test stuff out? Or it’s a lot of girlfriends and a lot of almost looking at competitors and seeing what they’re doing? You always want to make sure you’re on the trends, right? I mean, that’s part of a retail store is providing things that customers want at that moment. And so a lot of it is doing outside research of kind of what maybe our competitors are moving and then starting to look like Okay, can we do that? And then once we start that process, the staff gets to go home with a lot of stuff. I bet, I bet yeah, try a lot. People on the street, get to go home with a lot of stuff, just to see what they think about it. Yeah. And actually our last product that we brought out, we let our customers name it. So we went on social media, not that and said, Hey, we need a name. And so they get to be a part of that process.
Megan Nivens: Which product was that that
Shannon Fisher: It was our last latest room and linen spray, serenity, serenity, that’s what they came up with. That is what they came up if that’s what we use. That’s a great idea.
Megan Nivens It’s a great idea. So let’s talk a little bit about your journey and starting this business. You know, with brandy, how did you guys decide that? Hey, I want to retire from my corporate day to day and switch gears like what happened during that timeframe. That was the catalyst for you that really prompted you into that. And then if you can talk a little bit about the journey of entrepreneurship. Yeah, it’s not always an easy one. And you face a lot of different challenges. Number one, not being an entrepreneur in the past, maybe not having just, you know, it’s your first rodeo, right, like you made a lot of mistakes, and you learn a lot and all of that, but also being a woman and going into an industry that, especially in Alabama is not very common. I would imagine you had a lot of maybe you had some doors closed on your face with the idea. So we’ll just be curious to hear about that side of the journey. Yeah.
Shannon Fisher: So for lemon and lavender to open, you know, Brandy and I had it sitting on a bookshelf. That’s what we tell everybody. It was an idea that sat on a bookshelf that we were waiting. We didn’t know, we knew we wanted to be in downtown Madison. But of course, there’s only so many spots in downtown Madison. And so we waited for about two years. Two and a half years maybe before we actually found a spot. The catalyst for me quitting my corporate job was anxiety in COVID. I mean, I was really having some mental health issues, which is not talked about by Asia not enough, right. And I mean, it was something that we really need to shine a light on On, so that the stigma of it goes away, I have been very open about my struggle with anxiety. I think that’s one of the best things that people can do. So people feel good about it and not feel so ostracized, not having
Megan Nivens: I mean, gives a sense of relief, right to where you’re not just challenged with that on your own. Right, you know, if you can share that with other people who can understand I mean, not not to say that it shares the burden of the weight a little better, but it doesn’t in some capacity. Yeah.
Shannon Fisher: And so I was, I was really struggling getting up and going to my job, which I left my job, I had been there for 12-13 years. At that point, it was just me and my bosses, it was a great job, great pay, I mean, everything, you know, on paper was amazing. But I just went, I remember standing in my garage, and I was sobbing, because I had to go to work. Yeah. And my husband said, You need to stop. And so we had ll going already. And I thought, Okay, stay the change was we’re gonna do this. And it was probably the best decision that I made for my own mental health to be able to almost take that off, you know, and not have that hanging over my head. Now, this space has been different, right?
Shannon Fisher: So to say you went from one extreme to the other, to talk about different industries complete, I mean, granted, still using a lot of your fundamental knowledge to support the business. But this is a complete step in a different direction. Absolutely. Which is exciting, very exciting was it was it was a late and it was only I thought it was one of those where I felt very confident in the business model. I felt very confident in our business plan.
Shannon Fisher: And so once we decided that we were going to jump, and I retired from the day job and came over here, it was just all hands in, and I was able to take whatever anxiety and you know, adrenaline that was bottled up and really push it into the store. Yeah, and that has been huge. I like working with my hands and building stuff. So a lot of the stuff that we have in here I’ve built myself like physically have built herself. I love that’s one of my hidden talents.
Megan Nivens: Shannon is a secret woodworker behind the scenes, which is fascinating. I love that so much. Just there’s there’s your house just peppered with no house? No, it’s not. Okay. Do you sell your the stuff that you make it all?
Shannon Fisher: I have before? But I do not like creating stuff for for other people. Yeah, fine. If they have a vision in their head. Yeah. And I can’t see that because I’m not in their head. Yeah. And so it’s easier for me to do things that I see. And then if someone wants it great. Yeah. And if someone doesn’t, it usually comes here. They’re perfect or sound great. Exactly. Does so yeah. So
Megan Nivens: Let’s talk a little bit about you starting the business. Because you obviously working in the corporate world for a right time you had the idea sort of sitting on the shelf, your husband recognized that you know what, Shannon? It’s probably time on maybe it’s time. So, you know, it’s not that everybody you know, maybe you did with that idea on the shelf that you had sitting there, but not everybody knows step one. Yeah. What do you do? Like I personally Googled how to start a business in the state of Alabama. Fun fact, what was your step one? How did you what resources to jump into?
Shannon Fisher: You know, I think because of my foundation in my education, just in business in general, I already had a breadth of knowledge. Yeah, I knew business license sales tax IDs that I knew partnership agreements, you know, those were not things that I wasn’t already either working with, with other entities and helping kind of create and make sure we were covered. And so really, our step one was a location. Okay, like we couldn’t open we couldn’t really do any do a whole lot if we didn’t know where we were opening. And so it’s a funny story, because we got a phone call on New Year’s Eve. From Jennifer who, Jennifer Daniels. Oh, gosh, I hope that’s Jennifer Daniels photography.
Megan Nivens: And says she’s beautiful work, by the way. Jennifer Daniels photography and
Shannon Fisher: stunning, stunning. Yeah. And so she actually used to rent the upstairs of the clay house, which is right down the road from us, okay. And she called Brandi and said, Hey, there’s a space opening in the clubhouse. Do you guys want to look at it? And so we’re like, Yeah, well, we’ll look at it. And I am not an immediate decision maker. Nor is Brandy. I like to think everything through like 5000 times. Yeah, I am that person. And we walked in the room. And it was like, this, isn’t it? You just knew we knew. Both of us knew, which is also very uncommon for both of us to be on the same page. At the same moment. When
Megan Nivens: things like that happen, though. You’ve got to be getting grabbed grab onto it, because there’s something to be said for that. So we
Shannon Fisher: had rent due in 30 days. Do you notice I didn’t like that’s where we landed with like the yes, we want the space. Oh my gosh, I pay rent in 30 days. Yeah. And so we worked tirelessly to get the vision of what the store look like, and the products and everything. And we opened, I think our initial opening was the 26th a chain. Oh my gosh, I mean truly was less than 30 days. So knowing a space was opening guests to when you physically opened your business and had to pay rent, and how to pay rent, like because then you have that motivation, like, how in the world, were you able to pull that off in such a short period of time.
Shannon Fisher: So because it was an idea on a shelf, we already had the backbone, we already knew the fundamental requirements of what kind of products were we looking at? I mean, we hadn’t actually sourced anything, you know, before that, but we knew what the store looked like, because we had talked about it for about two and a half years. And so that made it easy. It was just a whirlwind of shopping. And me filling out online applications for all the business stuff that you have to do. And at thankfully, we’ve been able to call some friends of ours who are bankers, and I’m like, I need a bank account tomorrow. Because I’m selling a product tomorrow. So I only need a bank account, to hook it up to so yeah, it was it was great
Megan Nivens: But your network comes in, right? He had time. He I’m sick time we
Shannon Fisher: we have a friend who’s our personal attorney. And so I was like, I made this done and filed immediately. And he he did his part. And we did our part and everything was amazing.
Megan Nivens: Yeah. So what were some of the, I’m sure there were a couple, what were some of the challenges that were faced, let’s say in those first six months that, you know, looking back, right, like, hey, if I were to start over, we’re gonna do this over again, what were some of the things that you learned? And I will say, No regrets on any of this, right? It’s it all helps you learn. And when learning comes in those low points, I’m a firm believer of that. No low points. But when you stumble, right, that’s when I mean, their true growth happens during that time, you know, for sure. So talk to us about that.
Shannon Fisher: So in 30 days, we just didn’t have a lot of time to test our suppliers. Right. So you’re going on a whim? Yeah, you’re, you know, what you want to bring in? But you don’t have time to vet that? Yeah. And so we went through a lot of suppliers early on, and that we were like, No, that’s not gonna work. But we have the product, so we’re gonna, you know, we’re gonna put it out there. And it wasn’t a bad product. I don’t want to say that it was it just wasn’t the product that met all of our requirements, that maybe we didn’t even know we needed. Yeah, I thought point to an old packaging, and like how they are part of their eco journey. That’s important to us that our vendors and suppliers also live that same life that we live in terms of packaging and everything. And so there was a lot of back and forth of Okay, that one didn’t work, we’ve got to look for somebody new, and staffing. We both knew that we didn’t want to be necessarily the face in front of the store. Yeah. Because we had a lot of responsibility, outside of, you know, checking someone out on a register. And so staffing is always difficult. I’ve never hired a person to be my employee ever. I’ve managed people. But it was a new experience of trying to navigate, how am I a manager of the business that I own, because my investment is now different than when I worked for someone else. Yeah, when you work for someone else, you know, you’re gonna do a good job, you’re gonna show up and you’re gonna do the work. But when you own the business, so different, different, different, you’re like, I have bills, I have to pay, you know, this is my name on the line, but people are looking at me, then if it’s not succes ul, I’m the one who chose that line. Right?
Megan Nivens: And no
one’s gonna love your child as much as you do. Right. So they may not understand some of the sacrifices and all of that. So yeah, it’s, it’s challenging.
Shannon Fisher:
It was it was difficult. And it took a long time to get to a staff place where we felt like these are our people. You know, we look for people who want to do good buddy environment themselves. When when you have someone working for you, who is passionate about something in the same capacity you are, it becomes very easy. But learning to be that manager. Wow. It was it was insane to me, because again, I just like to sit behind a computer and run numbers and look at metrics. Like yes, this works or this doesn’t. So it was outside of my comfort zone. To really train a person has things that seemed natural to me. Maybe you weren’t natural to other people.
Megan Nivens: Yeah. So yes, it was hard, but you gotta get staff now.
Shannon Fisher: You feel good about having great staff. Yeah, I could not speak more highly of them if I wanted to. They are amazing. They knew everything. They know some of the stuff better than we know it. You know, I’m I think that’s how it works.
Megan Nivens: Yeah, absolutely. So you guys started off in clay house. Yeah. Which is just back behind where we are now. Yes. In downtown Madison. So and then this, this opened up? Yeah. And so talk bit about that, and how that sort of offered up a new opportunity for later on.
Shannon Fisher: So we knew about a year in that we were ready to move we needed to grow, we had to hit our ceiling in terms of revenue, and obviously space. And so it was either you’re gonna close the doors, or you’re gonna move. And the only place we weren’t it was downtown. And so we heard that this space was coming up eautiful space, it is that it did not look this way. It was awful if I say so maybe it was very had lots of different rooms and awkward rains and small rains. And so we just heard through the grapevine that it was going to open up, we kind of walked it and said, There’s no way was just we’re not doing this, it would cost too much. Right? Yeah, they would have taped down all the walls, I’m not interested. And then about 30 days later, a couple months, maybe we heard that they were taken down the walls. And so we re engaged with the landlords, and said, This is what we want. And they said, Okay, we told them our business model, we told them who we were what we do. I mean, they already knew us just from being in Holland. Yeah, in downtown. But then they created the space to kind of my specifications, you know, I mean, I kind of said, we have to have an office, we have to have sound spaces have to have a mud sink. And so they built it for us 22 months later to a high minute to get everything done. But well worth the weight. Yeah, well worth the weight. We actually opened our first day back here was on the Madison Street Festival. Oh,
Megan Nivens: gosh, that was your first day open
Shannon Fisher: our first day open. We worked tirelessly. We did not find out we were going to open until I think it was like two weeks beforehand, because we kept getting different dates. Yeah, like, Oh, you’re gonna open in 20 dnn 23, but it’s gonna be January and then the date kept getting pushed back. So at some point you go okay, well, right. I no longer believe you. Yeah, my landlords are great. But at some point, you start right, believing that boy, no, no. It’s like, yeah, when we got two weeks out, it almost was a rapey of opening at the clay house. Yeah, changing the business license because you’ve got a different address and redoing all your paperwork and inventory because I wasn’t willing to just have everything sitting in storage. And I knew my suppliers at that point where I knew I couldn’t get it in it made it and so yeah, about two weeks from them handing us the keys. We built everything that you see in here. We’re the ones who put up the shelving, we cut the wood for the shelving, we painted the shelving, we brought everything in Wow.
Megan Nivens: So yeah, and then day open on Madison Street Festival
Shannon Fisher: with no internet which Oh, fantastic. Oh god internet went down. I mean, I had already had it in place but yeah, it went down to fat as yeah and I called him I’m like you don’t understand that the week after. Anyways, we were able to hotspot that day. All phones Good, good. And so he was in great opening stress
Megan Nivens: that it’s very stres ul, very stres ul. And Madison Street Festival is one of the most sought looked at you know, look forward to events and Madison Alabama, which that mean that Chamber of Commerce and everybody in the city of Madison does such a phenomenal job of just turning downtown into just a beautiful celebration of small business and community and everything it’s such a great event tell me remind me when that is the street festival happens soon as in already September
Shannon Fisher: Saturday in October it’s October okay the very first Saturday every single year.
Megan Nivens: yeah, Saturday it’s gonna be fun this Sunday And so in addition to being a business owner, you are also a mom, how many kids do you have?
Shannon Fisher: So between me and my husband, we have six and then they have significant significant others. So we played our whole lot. Yeah, I have family I illogical son. My husband has twin boys and a daughter. And then I was previously married and I kept my two stepdaughters. So that makes up for Cindy and our most of your family based here in Madison or North Dakota. Yes. So my family, my husband’s family all based here. The kids now live about everywhere. So one of our twins just graduated from MIT. And so we had one that just graduated from U H is moving to Boston to work. We have one who just came home from Charlotte. He was finishing his master’s. And so now he’s back here working. We have one who’s a nurse in Georgia. I mean, there’s a gap a little bit. We have to hear at this point. That’s great. So we do Sunday suppers. Kids come over we do Sundays afterwards. You know, we have a great thing.
Megan Nivens: we have a great thing. I always had dreams when I was younger having Sunday suppers at my house with my family. That was something I always want to do. And it’s interesting. We make a very dedicated effort to have dinner around the table all the time. Like it’s a very you know, but my oldest daughter went off to college and you you have this hole at the table now right and it’s like It just slowly starts to change over time as your kids get older, but, but they’ll bring that back. They asked for the Sunday supper. I knew it wasn’t all they asked me. They when they made it back, they were like, can we please start stocking stuffers? Again? We didn’t when they were in high school. Yeah. And so it was easy. But now we started back because they just recently moved back to LA that yeah, that is good.
Megan Nivens: Do you guys have a staple meal that you always cook on Sunday? We
Shannon Fisher: We kind of make enough for them to take leftovers. And then they raid the pantry in the fridge. We don’t. Yeah, we don’t drink cans to our house. And so we buy them coke. So they go on with groceries, perfect. And then food for a couple of days because they’re in their mid 20s. And that’s perfect.
Megan Nivens: I’m going to see my daughter next week and she all she’s talking about is the food that I’m going to buy for her. Abby really doesn’t want to eat pizza rolls every day. I’m like, Well, you make that decision. So she comes home and she just critiques me on what we have in our pantry. She’s like, you don’t have anything and I’m like, okay.
Shannon Fisher: yeah.
Megan NivenS: I don’t know what to tell you.
Shannon Fisher: The first time my son came home from college, he was like, where’s the milk. And I was like, we don’t drink milk when you’re not here like milk. SOT Yes, I believe in our house. Because you mean no. Kids don’t get to go to the store. You have you have a car and you have money.
Megan Nivens: Yeah. So one of the things that I saw on the website that you guys were doing is you offer workshops, which I thought was fascinating. Everything from like sourdough making, to which I’m like, wait a minute, this isn’t a bakery. What are we doing here? You know, so tell us a little bit about the workshops. Because what a great opportunity to for team building or girls night out or even like a mommy daughter date night or you know, whatever it might be. So talk to us a little bit about the workshops. And by the way, they’re like all sold out. Yes. And like holy cow. So they’re doing very, very well.
Shannon Fisher: Yeah so, our workshops started because we started our business during COVID, we found that there was a need for women to want to be together, we were all separate for so long, and sitting in our houses, scared to do anything, couldn’t do anything. And so once all those restrictions got lifted, we wanted to have an avenue for people to come together. And so it really came from a more of a community. That was a responsibility, but we had a space and we could provide something to allow people to come together. So it started from that. And everyone loved it. And so we were selling out at the clay house for our workshops. In this crazy we were very surprised that people wanted that experience. So down here we have been able to expand and have I think our classes are usually 17 to 20 people, which is huge. Wow. I want to host it here we have so many are in the store. We do our sourdough classes we bring in a master teacher we do not teach them ourselves.
Megan Nivens: I was gonna say like, are you bakers and like holy cow wow,
Shannon Fisher: I will make sandwich bread because it’s a day process. Sourdough is a little bit too much of a commitment for me MIT MIT for me personally, the mother how do you get the I try? I just can’t I don’t know there’s something wrong. Yeah. Name. Welcome to one of our classes. I think I’m gonna have to you will be using a 100-year-old starter.
Shannon Fisher: We did we bring in what we call our master teachers and some are they local, they are in love. Yeah. Okay, they are local, we make sure that we bring them in so that what we are sharing is real true factual information. And so our sourdough class has been by far the most popular it sells out and 24 hours. Holy cow, it is insane. I think it’s awesome that people want to do this. Yeah, like, one of the things I see, especially with our store and whether we fillers in general is a need to go almost the factory in time and how to make life simple. You know, how do we take away all the hustle and bustle and craziness and just go back to being simple and the sourdough is one of those things and people love it, you know? And then we get pictures where they’ve baked it and it looks amazing. Yeah. But we also do chunky blanket classes. Those all cost money we do free classes for dry cleaning. So if you want to get into I want to start cleaning with my own DIY products Um, no, we host classes to educate people on like the ratios of cleaning vinegar to water you know, and just things of that nature and what you can use it on. And those we do teach ourselves because we consider ourselves the authority yes on that information. Yeah, but yeah, they’re huge. We’ve got classes every single month two to three usually a month. Wow. Actual media and then on our website
Megan Nivens: Yeah, there that’s amazing that how fun yeah.
Shannon Fisher: She is the teacher that teaches the ones that we have she is the one that she usually here she makes friends I mean it’s it is no the under watching and other people make friends here and then they go off and they’re friends. It’s great,
Megan Nivens: Yeah, well and I love that you guys are. We briefly spoke about this earlier, but I Love that you all are not to use a cliche phrase, but you’re you’re talking the talk and walking the walk, right? It’s not just about like, and I know, this is not what you’re doing. But it’s not about getting on the next trend of what’s going to be something that you know, but you guys are doing your part to create a more, you know, a sustainable environment and educating people on how to do that as well. That way they can take those best practices into their home. That’s a big deal. That’s a really big deal.
Shannon Fisher: I think for businesses who don’t do that, it lessens that credibility. Agreed. I mean, if you walk into my home and you see plastic everywhere, that doesn’t speak to who I am as a business owner for the entity, right? And so it has always been very important, then all aspects of what we’re doing to try and be as eco conscious and making those decisions that are going to impact the environment in a good way. Yeah, so we just hold our feet to the fire.
Megan Nivens: I love it. I love it. Well, kudos to you guys for what you’re doing. It’s amazing and honestly and it’s truly unique gem not only in downtown Madison but in the state of Alabama so definitely lemon and lavender comm check them out. They’re absolutely amazing. Cheers to you guys and to your continued growth. So excited for you. You’re welcome.